Just a quick clarification. I offered my comment as a possible reason for lack of responses. Sorry I was not clear, I was rushing to get out the door for VBS.
My initial reaction when I read this post was good gosh, I may as well move into the gym, good thing it has nice showers. However my goal is to be fit, not cut, so I know I don't need to work as long as Lynn did. I graduated from high school with a gal who went on to be a body builder and is now a fitness trainer. She never used steroids and as a trained nutritionist is big into real unprocessed food. I don't aspire to look as great as she does, either, as I have neither the time to invest nor the natural musculature that she does. But sometimes when I am struggling in the gym, I ask myself what she would do, and it more often than not helps me push through. I think maybe this is the same sort of inspiration and motivation that you get from Lynn?
I have some other thoughts that are going to have to wait because I need to go fix dinner and have a splitting sinus headache and I'm afraid that I won't be coherent.
Want it. Plan it. Do it.
I'm inspired because Lynn broke the rules. He lifted for longer than 45 minutes. He did cardio for longer than 20 and he didn't lose muscle. He ate twice the reccomendation of protein per lb of bw. All these rules that I have heard since I started and he still got great results. I have read so much information from experts like Bill and Shawn, Alwyn/Rachel Cosgrove, Jeff Willet and several other people who claim that you will be skinny fat if you do too much cardio, ie lose muscle mass.
I put Lynn's information up there with Tom Venuto in that he wasn't selling anything, so he could be real and lay it all on the line. And with that all said, it's time for me to step up my game. If Lynn could do it, then so can I. My before and afters show 130 lbs of fat loss, but I have ever achieved the muscle mass that I want. And this conversation really sent me over in regards for how I am going adjust my training, nutrition etc. I'm all for being lean, but I want to achieve the physique's that these people had.
And in this I would love, like all, to win the BFL contest and in doing so give the grand prize away to someone else because the reason for me is not about winning a prize. I also have a couple ideas on how BFL Champs could be more involved as I believe it to be a responsibility.
At the time Lynn did BFL, there weren't "rules" to break. There wasn't a BFL, at least not as we know it.
I also think there's a misconception about rules. People think you can't do cardio outside the 20 minute HIIT. There's nothing that says otherwise. Some think if it's not in the book then it doesn't exist. I handle this the same way I do people who say that about the Bible. iPhones aren't in the Bible...
I like Lynn, but wouldn't say he is on par with Tom Venuto, a well researched and accomplished competitor, coach, writer and expert industry leader. Venuto had a great blog entry about HIIT versus slower longer cardio. He basically argued that the argument was stupid. Why would it have to be either or when they both have merits?
I understand why some might think that what Lynn (and several others) shared is discouraging, but there's another way to think about it. It's misleading for someone to think they'll get his results without doing things more like he did, by doing strict BFL instead. Some people, arguably even most, don't care if they get his results or not. It's great to know that BFL will get you Jerry's results. Some I'm sure were upset when they worked BFL really hard and didn't get Lynn's outcome. I think that's discouraging.
It's important to note that if you're not doing more meals a day than BFL, like Lynn and not working out significantly more than BFL, like Lynn, then you don't get to eat like Lynn!
The moral: Information is Power
I'm not saying Lynn and Venuto are the same, I said they both lay it out cause neither are selling a thing. Obviously Tom has done way more than Lynn, that's not what I am debating nor is that what I want this thread to be about.
It doesnt matter if I disagree? If all you did was tell us about what lynn did and left it at that then that would be fair enough, but you didnt. Based on what Lynn did you formulated your own opinion of the exercise program laid out in BFL, one I happen to diagree with. If you can give your opinion, am I not entitled to mine?
I think Lynn is amazing, he had a choice to live or die, he chose to live.
However, you are not getting the "oohhh" and "ahhhhh" because so many people here are following what we all know as the BFL program, Lynn did not do this.
It doesn't minimize what he did, it just isn't something that 99% of the people on the forum can relate to or understand (some of BP's earlier stuff, muscle media, was very intense, even for the seasoned bodybuilder).
Charlie, good for you for seeking out and interviewing somebody who is probably an amazing friend, mentor, and community leader, I'm sure it gave you an injection of motivation and inspiration.
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