Hi Orrin,

I am also struggling with this, even though EAS is sold in the U.S.   They have discontinued my favorite creatine products, Phophagen and Phosphagen HP.  I switched to Body Fortress Creatine, a fruit flavored punch.  I should be taking two servings daily, but usually only remember to take one.  I would prefer a creatine-only product, not one combined with other supplements, as this is what my doctor has OK'd.

BTW, thanks for the lead on the AS Body Building text.  Mine arrived a week ago, and at 800 pages it is going to take a while to digest it!

Yours in BFL,

Jacium

Thanks Jacium.

I hope you enjoy the book. I think it is well worth the read. Plus you actaully get an arm workout just holding it :)

Have a great day!

Orrin

Orrin,

For Sure!

Jacium

just use a monohydrate. although i never found any difference when i used creatine. if you want something that really works, use what bill phillips used to recommend back in the muscle media days, deca.

yea isnt betagen supposed to be as effective deca ? :-)

fightingfit: I can no longer buy EAS products. EAS has pulled out of Canada.

Charlie: Is deca something you use?

lol...orrin it was more of a joke, but it is true, deca does work. deca-durabolin is an anabolic steroid. good ole' arnold's choice back in the day.

Charlie: I thought you were joking but had never heard of deca before. I looked it up and then realized you were saying it tongue in cheek. You don't use creatine? I know you are not a big supplement supporter and I get that. There is a lot of BS out there. But there is a lot of good too. It  is hard to sort out so I am always interested in other people's experiences.

I've used monohydrate, betagen, phosphagen hp, phosphagen elite, kre-alkalyn and never noticed a difference with my lifts.

I view things like whey a food and not a supplement and in my honest opinions the "supplements" that really work are anabolics. There is no question that they work.

I've never been a fan of these workout drinks, but if i had to reccommend anything i would say give the scivation xtend a shot. tastes pretty good and its a bcaa blend to sip through your workout.

A really good creatine that works for me is called Con-Cret concentrated creatine

www.vitaglo.com/concret70000.html

I have been taking the GNC Amp 189 for about a month now. I don't know if it does anything or not. I do feel that I have more strength for that extra rep or even see myself going up slightly in how much I lift. Maybe I'm getting stronger simply because I keep lifting and maybe the creatine is helping. I am on week 12 now and am going to take a week or so off. I will also stop taking the creatine while i'm off and see how I feel when I start back. When the GNC runs out I will probably try mono because I have heard good things and GNC is kind of pricey.

Thanks for the input cleet68 and sparky321.

I also take the con-cret. It seemed to help me some during my last challenge. I seemed to have better results through my challenge. No real bloating or water retention like with monohydrate. I took it with vitargo which supposedly helps aid in absorption. Good luck