potato's and sweet potato

Sandy,

That wink cracked me up.  What program did you use for your meal plan calculating?  I like it.  

I'm not really a supporter of turkey bacon / sausage.  It's not just about what you shouldn't have, but what you should and that doesn't really help you.  Of course on occasion it's cool, but it's not a good regular option.  

You need more meals.  That might be part of the issue.  Space them every 2.5 hours instead of 3, if that helps.  

Ditch the butter and add more eggs.  4 eggs with 1 yolk or even 5 would be more the appropriate portion  

Lunch is too high on carbs.  I don't do bread often, but yes, it's approved.  You'd be better off with a good quality wheat wrap and I agree with La Tortilla Factory.  Look into Ezekial bread.  

As mentioned, dinner needs a carb and sweet potato is always a winner.  That's of course 1 of many options.  

That's all 1 snack?  What a strange combination!

LOL!  Jessica - no that's not all one "snack"!  The site www.sparkpeople.com that I did that on only allowed 3 meals and a snack categories (but I did notice I could change that when I was in there today).

The yorgurt and HB egg white is my mid morning meal / the Myoplex shake is my mid afternoon meal.

Technically, it's 5 meals - I CAN'T go to bed with a full stomach....can that 6th meal in the evening be a shake?  (Although I'll have to look into shake options, cuz there's no way I can afford 2 or 3 of those Myoplex shakes a day!)

Thanks!

The last meal can absolutely be a shake.  Maybe do the meals somewhat closer together?  You can do every 2 hours.  It's not the biggest deal if it's 5 meals.  I frequently only hit 5 so let's not worry about this moment.  

Ahhh, yogurt + hb egg white = not enough protein.  

Try getting a bag or tub of whey protein and then doing that plus a small piece of fruit for meal 6.  

I stongly disagree with jessica and say 2000 calories is way too much food for you , 1200 to 1500 cals is a good amount and IT WOULD NOT NOT NOT  prevent meaningful progress

My information was backed by science, the BFL plan and EAS.  It's okay to disagree, but then please bring data to the table.  Have you a scientific journal or even a great article that's well researched? 

1200 would be way too low for someone 198#.  That's more appropriate for someone 120#.

yes but shes carrying 50 or 60lbs of fat, that dead weight that has very little metabolic value, so answer me this if she lost 50lbs of fat but gained 10lbs of muscle you would have her eat less food because she weighs less but  even though shes has more living metabolic tissue on her

It goes by scale weight because you need to eat for the body you have, not the one you want.  To answer your question, yup!  That's the appropriate method that's taught by EAS, Bill Phillips and others.  They were clear that you don't eat for your idea, but for what you have right now.  If we are talking about an extreme situation then there are variations, but I've heard no extremes here.  

Also, at her height, we are talking more 20-30.  Let's be careful and respectful.  

Also Jessica your first sentence is a falacy, BFL does not back up your theory, BFL asks us to count portions based on the size of our hands, this girls hands will be the same size whether shes 190lbs or 130lbs so her calories will be the same no matter what she weighs

I started at 37% body fat, which is obviously very high.  I followed this method and believe my final results speak to the effectiveness of this plan.

That is wrong 6packmission.  I learned this from EAS, while Bill was still running it.  It was even listed on the site.  Also, look at how we do portions.  3 oz of chicken, which is right for a smaller woman, is about 20g of protein.  I do about 3.5 oz and a larger woman would do more towards 4.  It works out nicely.  

Your hands certainly change sizes.  That's the silliest thing I've ever heard, you saying it wouldn't.  My rings prove you wrong.

what are you now and how long did it take

Your way may work but why wait if you can do it faster

How long have you known about BFL

I have know about it for a very long time

I have read EVERY mag of muscle media

According to you, Porter freeman, have you heard of him? Under ate because at 265lbs he only had 1900 calories a day

Jerry braam another champion, only ate 2000 calories a day

These guys lost over 50lbs of fat in 12 weeks and gained muscle The bottom line is if your very overweight  you dont need to feed the fat weight on your body and can lose very fast

6packmission

You are the type who would take a magic pill.  It can't be done faster if it's to stay.  I lost at a really healthy and good rate.  Someone 5'9" and 198# going to 1200 calories would lose quickly, but then gain, stall, stagnate and cause other issues.  You just don't understand the science here.  

Could she do 1800?  Yeah.  What about 1500?  Maybe 1x per week or even 2.  Your body being kept guessing is good.  1200?  No!  That's too low for this person.  I did more than that.

I've know about BFL since about 1999, when a good friend won.  What's the point?

Actually, I've met and spent time with Porter.  You asked me in a patronizing and inappropriate way.  You need to watch your tone.  You listed 2 people who were VERY overweight, according to your own words.  I was answering someone here that is not.  Your information is moot.  

PLEASE bring some scientific information.  I've now made several requests.  You would rather fart around, pretending you know things that you don't instead of doing it.  I don't care what you've read.  I am more researched than just about anyone.  You read a lot, but I've noted that on the rare occasion that you provide "proof", it's something that's total crap.  If you are as well read as you claim then you should be able to discern the difference.  

I will repeat my challenge to you.  I am starting another BFL Challenge soon.  If you know so much then let's do this.  I will do a bod pod at the beginning and end to prove results.  Are you in or are you out?  That's the only thing I want to hear from you because this is getting ridiculous.  

Are you ready to prove yourself.  Yes or No?

with what parameters would we decide who wins?

I am open to suggestions.  We can put it to a vote of a group or decide now on what basis, like losing the greatest percentage of body fat.  It would be a full 12 week BFL Challenge, that would also include sending in our entries to EAS.