Bilbo99,

Just so I am clear you are planning to eat 1 tablespoon of pb 1 slice of ww bread and some cottage cheese. What do you mean by some cottage cheese? What meal will this be? your last?  I would not recommend ww bread for your last meal. Do you plan to eat it everyday?

I would recommend. Even the kids eat this pb and like it. I pulled one over on them little do they know it is healthy. I am an evil genius

http://teddie.com/peanutbutter.html

http://teddie.com/peanutbutter.html just so we are clear only the unsalted ones. You get a choice smooth or chunky.

Personally, I would save the PB for free day.  I personally love PB, and I believe the biggest problem with PB is being honest with ourselves on portion size.  It's really easy to get "just a little more" than the serving size you're after and the calories and fat add up quickly.  The PB you're looking at looks pretty good relative to other PB, but that still doesn't make it a good idea.  My suggestion again, would be to save the PB for free day.  JMHO.

The amount of healthy fats per day that the body requires is already included within the whole foods that we take in each day. There is no need to add any additional fats.

I guess the question truly boils down to what type of results are you looking for? Peanut butter is not recommended if you are looking for optimum results in a challenge. Great on free day. Your body...your goals...your choice.

I can see you guys are sticklers. That is a good thing. My 1st post and I will get the hang of it.

Figawu the peanut butter would be one tablespoon spread on one piece of whole wheat mini thins bread. No it wont be my last??? This bread is round and relatively new in certain parts of the country, Its made by Sara Lee and its about the roundness of a hamburger bun but 1/4 as thin. They are great for sandwiches and Boca or Garden Burgers. Anyway, along with that would be a 3/4 cup of cottage cheese. This would be a mid morning snack. Lets try to remember, all of us, that we are all different sizes. I am 6'4 and 280 and want to loose 40lbs. All I am trying to do here is establish whether Natural PB is part of BFL (its right on the www.BFL.com food list. It just doesnt say how much). I have seen other "BFL" type sites talk about using as much as two tablespoons and part of the normal BFL plan. When the food list is just a list of food with no serving sizes it is a little confusing. How much Avocado is OK? Same list/.....

No I don't plan on eating everyday. I don't understand that question if its approved. Plus, the PB I listed is way healthier that "natural PB"

DaveND I respect your opinion. I am only trying to determine if natural PB is fair game and if yes, how much. Like I said, its listed on the food list but with NO

amounts. I love BFL but the website stinks.

Faithfull Renea - Once again, Natural PB is on the FOOD LIST with a bunch of other foods including avacado. Using your logic that fats are already in our food (they are not in mine) are you saying that Avacado is out because there no need to add additional fats? A typical meal is a boneless chicken *** BBQ with a blend of seasoning (no salt), Sugar Snap Peas or Broccoli steamed and bare, a tennis ball size red potato with sprinkle of fat free cheddar cheese and fat free sour cream (2 teaspoon) and some salt free seasoning. Now I am surely not looking to add PB in this meal. I am only making the point that I use little fat in my regular meals. If I do its 100% saturated.

This thread has jumped all over the place. Once again, all I am asking is a straight forward, tastebud out of the equation, question about whether Natural PB like the one I suggested is OK, if yes how much in a snack assuming all other categories are met. Can we just stick to that question. It would help me a great deal. Thank you for the time you have already taken to reply.

Bilbo

Bottom line is that if you look at the PB I suggested, over 1/3 of its fat is Omega 3. It is the healthiest PB I have come accross.

All I want is someone to tell me why some say yes to natural PB and others say no way. Take your own taste buds out of the conversation.

I am looking to you because it is impossible to find this info on the BFL website. Seriously, as a person who frequents many forums, this is the worst.

On top of that, there are no serving amounts listed on the food list. The recipe section is very limited.

I understand what you're saying - I've had and like the bread btw.  I'm also 6'4" and my goal is to get to about 210 (244 on Jan. 1st.)  I think what everyone is trying to say is to be careful, because foods like PB can start us on a slipperly slope of little indulgences that add up to poor results.  Natural protein is great, other sources are simply safer than PB (such as chicken, and fish.)  For me, PB is the single, easiest to overdue on, food out there.  I love it and it's real easy to let the portion creep up a little at a time.  At any rate, best of luck with your challenge, PB or no PB.  <g>

Bilbo,

 That you for all the info. I can't give you a specific answer unless i know the specific details and remember this is just my opinion. I would make this a meal not a snack. I would eat 2 tablespoon of the peanut butter (once again the teddie pb is really really good but feel free to get your own if you dont want the teddi unsalted only) as i stated with 2 ww bread 3/4 cups of cc. Which should be 5-7oz of cottage cheese. There you got your carbs, you got your protein and you got your fats. I would recommend to eat this once a day. I hope this helps so the simple answer is yes you can have peanut butter on bfl.

Bilbo:

This is the authorized food list from The Original Body for Life book. It is what is recommended for best results. What you do with it is your personal choice.

Not sure how this is going to copy....

PROTEINS                                 CARBS                    VEGGIES

Chicken ***            Baked Potato                    Broccoli

Turkey ***            Sweet Potato                    Asparagus

Lean Ground Turkey            Yam                                          Lettuce

Swordfish                                 Squash                    Carrots

Orange Roughy            Pumpkin                    Cauliflower

Haddock                                 Steamed Brown Rice Green Beans

Salmon                                 Steamed Wild Rice Green Peppers

Tuna                                 Pasta                      Mushrooms

Crab                                Oatmeal                      Spinach

Lobster                                Barley                      Tomato

Shrimp                                Beans                      Peas

Top Round Steak          Corn                                           Brussels Sprouts

Top Sirloin Steak          Strawberries                     Artichoke

Lean Ground Beef          Melon                                           Cabbage

Buffalo                               Apple                                          Celery

Lean Ham                              Orange                     Zucchini

Egg, Whites or Substitutes   Fat-Free Yogurt                         Cucumber

Low-Fat Cottage Cheese      Whole-Wheat Bread Onion

Yikes - sorry it didnt paste well. But you get the drift - 3 columns.

In my humble opinion, it's relative to your over all goals.  

If you are trying to build mass, then by all means have the 2 tablespoon of natty pb.  If you have an excessive amount of body fat to lose...save it for free day.  

Legs C3,

Avocado
Sunflower seeds
Pumpkin seeds
Cold-water fish
Natural peanut butter
Low-fat cheese
Low-sodium nuts
Olives and olive oil
Safflower oil
Canola oil
Sunflower oil
Flax seed oil

http://bodyforlife.com/library/food-list

Bilbo,

This is a journey and your journal shall be your GPS. Make sure you right down everything you eat. Weigh yourself and if something is not right. You feel you should have lost more weight, scale back on the pb and see how that goes. Who knows at the mid way point you might not want to have pb on any other day except free day. All we can say is try it.

I eat  1 oz of sunflower seeds everyday and I lost 29.8 in 12wks. I am sure someone can say well you could have lost 40lbs if you didn't eat the nuts. Yeah i could also have regress to the old ways and lost only 10lbs. So i will take my nuts and my 29.8 and be happy. I am on day 87 of BFL baby.

Peanut butter is better off left for a free day, even "all natural"

Figawu: I do not understand why the web-site is different. I think it changed when Bill Phillips left his legacy per say to move onto different ventures and some other company took over. I agree, the web-site does list different foods that Bill Phillip had reason to NOT have in his book when he wrote it.

I have tried to stick with the Origional Book for my challenges. Im sorry, I should have stated that. It is almost like comparing apples to oranges. (ok that was weird)

Regardless - stick with what you believe in. It has to feel right in order for it to work.