Sure. When I have a shake, I'm hungry again sooner than if I eat something solid, say an apple and cottage cheese or sliced turkey and a veggie. If someone is feeling hungry fairly quickly three times a day, six days a week, when free day rolls around that sense of deprivation could become an issue.

Maybe this is not an problem for fightingfit - that's why I only suggested that he consider limiting the shakes. I don't want the number of shakes to become the focus here, rather that fightingfit seriously consider why he has not been able to finish a challenge and what changes he can make that will enable him to do so this time.

Oh ok, so the issue of hunger is what you mean by not working.

We have different interpretations it seems. The protein will definitely work as far as results are concerned and having half of his meals already planned out would make it easier since he is just starting out. And for those where convenience is a priority, 3 shakes a day would be an ideal way to stay on track.

GL mark.

Thanks for the support charlie, I changed my user name because I was having problems logging in, this website has alot of bugs, what browser works best with it

took my official before stats this morning

im 294.8lbs and 43.6% bodyfat

Day 2

9.30 m1 myoplex diet

11.30 m2 veggie eggwhite omelete and oatmeal

1.30 upper body workout

3.00 m3 myoplex diet

5.30 m4 wholewheat pasta lean mince veg

8.30 m5 lowfat cottage cheese lowfat yogurt

11.30 m6 myoplex diet and 1 tblspoon fish oil

workout

incline db press

weights-35lbs,40lbs,45lbs,50lbs,45lbs

flat db press-20lbs

seat db press

weight each hand-7lbs-9lbs-12.5lbs-15lbs-12.5lbs

uprightrow each hand-12.5lbs

seated cable row

weights-75lbs,100lbs,125lbs,150lbs,125lbs

wide grippulldown-75lbs

cable pushdown

weights-24lbs-36lbs-48lbs-60lbs-48lbs

standing db press-20kg

incline one arm preacher curls-5lbs-10lbs-15lbs-20lbs-15lbs

hammer curls-10lbs

day 3

great upper body workout yesterday, another 20 minute intense interval cardio workout, meals will be as have been the past 2 days

How's it going out there, fightingfit?